Scientists Forcing Their 'Belief' On Noah's Grand Canyon!!#
Noahs Flood is obviously what caused the Grand Canyon.  Its just common sense! Every good Republican Christian knows that the Grand Canyon was caused by Noah's Flood.

God was sick of people and decided, in his mercy and love, to kill every last creature on the entire planet, except for Noah and the animals he could fit on his Ark.

As I showed before, Noah and his sons utilized flying Dinosaurs to travel the lands collecting animals for the Ark. This allowed him to get all the animals on the planet in short order, otherwise it would of course have been impossible to do.

Now scientists are starting to complain because the Bush administration is "not allowing" the geologists at the Grand Canyon National Park to tell the visitors lies and falsehoods.

What kind of lies?  How about, that the Grand Canyon was NOT caused by Noah's Flood!  WTF!?!?  These scientists can't just STFU can they?!  I bet they don't even believe that Noah lived to be 900 years old!!  Idiots.

Ok scientists, I'll bite.  If it wasn't caused by Noahs flood, then what was it caused by?

Their answer, after the jump, will shock you!



These Geologists (remember, that is just a type of "scientist") want Bush to allow them to tell people that the Grand Canyon was created by ... get this, billions of years of "erosion".

You read that right... "Billions" with a "B". So, since scientists love logic, let me pose the next logical question... How could it have taken billions of years to produce the Grand Canyon if the earth is only 6,000 years old, as we know it is from the Bible?

Of course their answer to THAT question is even MORE crazy: That the Bible is wrong! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!! What idiots!

You scientists are freaking morans!!!

But don't worry, these "scientists" won't have a chance at destroying the faith of the children that go to see the canyon left by Noah's flood, thanks to George W. Bush!  The Bush Administration has blocked these evil doers from telling people lies; thank you George W. Bush!! 

Remember this in 2008 when you might be voting for a new President (I am hoping that Bush will stay on with an execute call for Martial Law).  The Republicans came to your religious aid in the Grand Canyon, as the Democrats tried to help Satan spread lies in the form of "science"! 

Here is what these wacko scientists (PEER Executive Director Jeff Ruch) have to say:
In order to avoid offending religious fundamentalists, our National Park Service is under orders to suspend its belief in geology. It is disconcerting that the official position of a national park as to the geologic age of the Grand Canyon is ‘no comment.'
I agreee in 2 ways.  First, you should always keep from offending religious fundamentalists like me.  It's good policy.  If you offend me, you offend God!  If I am offended, I might ask God to punish you, and you he has my back!

For example, in a recent comment thread on this site (Send your liberal friends a post-rapture "I told you so") I explained how it works when you piss of someone like me, or another of God's buddies:
Sometimes people cross me... they disagree with me, or cut in front of me in my car, or they give me a weird look. Then I ask God to punish these people for angering me, and God always hears my prayers and does things to the people to make them wish that hadn't messed with me and God.

Usually, the punishment doesn't happen right away, but it always happens. For example, this guy totally bumped into me a few weeks back as I was getting on the train and I asked God to punish him.

Well... fast forward a few weeks and I am getting on the train and what do I see? This same guy running to catch the train and he didn't make it!! See?? God really showed that guy not to mess with me!

See?  Scientists in particular should really watch what they say and write, and make sure it isn't something that will anger religious fundamentalists.

I also agree with Jeff Ruch it their official position shouldn't be 'no comment.'

It should (or must) be 'The earth is 6000 years old, and the bible says so! God is awesome!'

This is just common sense!

So next time you are out at the Grand Canyon, make sure you pickup the official book on the cause of the Canyon, which is still on sale at the park, that talks about Noah's Flood as the cause,  because the scientists want that removed too!

With God's help, we can defeat Satan and his Scientists!

Friday, December 29, 2006 #    Comments [23]  | 

 

Saturday, December 30, 2006 2:54:38 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
A few years ago, I walked the Bright Angel Trail from the South Rim to the Colorado and back in a day, passing through 6,000 years of geology. If the earth is 2 billion years old like those liars proclaim, it would have taken me 333,333 days (2B /6,000) to do it... that's 913 years! Their math really sucks.
Anonymous
Saturday, December 30, 2006 4:11:01 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
And yet, when you present them with evidence like that, they claim you are "wrong". I hate those idiot scientists.
LiberalAssKicker
Sunday, December 31, 2006 5:25:43 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I was at the Grand Canyon last summer, and I clearly remember the staff telling us how old the Canyon was and it was all over all the park literature as well. I wish I could remember the name of the guy so you can get him fired.

What's older, the Grand Canyon or the Rolling Stones.
frankstige
Tuesday, January 02, 2007 11:00:23 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Stupid sientists.
Troubador
Tuesday, January 09, 2007 10:54:35 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
yeahh thse siense is stoopid.


~_~ If you still take all of the Bible seriously in this centrury, and this country, thats embarrissing. You all need to get back into your trailers in the rural Bible Belt and keep out of our government. You think we atheists are part of "Satan's army"? Well, guess what, WE DO NOT BELIEVE IN SATAN EITHER YOU STUPID RETARDS. I personally think Satanists are the dumbest of all religions. Why don't you quit being closed minded and read more about what people do and do not believe.
Anonymous
Monday, January 29, 2007 3:46:26 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
God made the world 6,000 years ago in just six days. So great is His power and glory that he made it LOOK as though it's billions of years old. See? Creationism and science... perfectly compatible.
snorky
Monday, January 29, 2007 8:35:21 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Not only that, but he took the light from distant galaxies and moved it very close to earth, so that we could see the stars, even though they are millions of light years away.

Otherwise, we wouldn't have anything to look at in the night sky!
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:28:49 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
What the hell is wrong with you?
James
Wednesday, February 07, 2007 9:50:41 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
What are you talking about?

I just am filled with a love of God! And he demands that I go out and totally rip on the stupid people who believe in science.
Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:38:18 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I agree with you guys, I hate it when people go and make stupid arguments and then act like they know it all!!! And then they always mischaracterize the views of people who disagree with them! Can anyone say "logical fallacy"? There's nothing better than trying to persuade people using deception, especially while you're accusing them of doing the same! Hahaha, I love it. That's the other thing you gotta hate about those liberals, they fall back on sarcasm and straw men. I also love how they pick on lay people and pop culture. They're like predators who pick out the sickest beast in the pack. Hmmm... after thinking about all of this maybe I don't agree with you guys afterall. Peace out brothers!!!
me
Sunday, February 18, 2007 11:33:35 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Wow, this is yet another pathetic attempt at proving the bibles truth. well, guess what, your wrong. The bible is false. You can't be blamed for being a wack job, i mean you were brainwashed from birth. Your parents probably told you that god hears your prayers. wrong. You are a poor misguided individual, and even more sad, you are obviously not alone in your absurd beliefs. First of all, there is no way that Noah could have possibly collected every animal on earth. For example there are thousands of species of insects on the earth today, would you suggest that Noah was able to track down, a male and female of not only every animal but also every insect on the face of the earth, and then, fit all of those animals and insects on a big boat. And your suggestion that Noah flew on the backs of dinosaurs, its ridiculous. Did you make it past a fifth grade education? are you completely ignorant to everything that the human race has come to understand through science? And you say that you hate scientists, but without them, you wouldn't have the computer that your using to talk about how they are the devils minions. So, if scientists are the devils minions, and they are also responsible for all modern technology, then every time you use your computer, your car, or anything that science has created, then you would be effectively working with the devil by your logic.

oh and also, let me ask this. if Noah as you said was the only man left, after god so mercifully wiped out the rest of humanity, how did he get the human race started again? was Noah boning the animals?

ha... I feel sorry for you, i really do, because you will have wasted your life because you aren't willing to let go of a foolish fantasy. You will never know the truth. You are simply to far gone. no one can help you now.
bobo
Monday, February 26, 2007 11:29:45 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I love this! Everything came from nothing or a singularity, if you perfer. The singulatity expanded out rotating in a single direction to form stars, planets, and galxies...the reason we see planets rotating in opposite directions is because things hit each other...Oh wait this is the old way it happended right? Now it all came about because of a quantum leap inside a false vacume that then produced a tremendous amount of energy. The energy was then able to form matter and anti-matter (we must not forget when these two touch the result is highly explosive creating cosmic background radiation). Some of the matter and anti-matter are able to separate, while the rest recombine produceing the above reaction. Stars form, and inside the stars chemical evolution takes place. This is the step where the elements are relesed to condence and form planets. From there life begins to form from (take your pick): RNA(thats right, the stuff that is cabable of leaving the nucleus) that is self relicating slowly imporves itself until it is able to make a cell, amino acids + electircity makes the cell, Dna forms building the cell- there are more, but no need to go on. From there, through reporduction, more and more information is added to what was originally there. How is this done? Random mutations change the information, gene duplication gives randomness more room to work by copying segments of the dna and adding them to the total, and natural selection/survival of fittest filter good and bad traits. Mix real well and supposedly you get life as it is today. Yes, I do indeed know there is more, however, I think this is a relatively good summory of the General Theory of Evolution as it stands today (Seems to me that there are several miraculous events going on in the above). To be honest, it is currently beyond human capablities to know for certain "How it all began". So far all we have are guesses based on biased opinions of others. Thought controll-teaching of only one point of view and elmination of any others. Is this an effort to keep people from looking at both sides? To me it feels as though you are trying to poison the well. Can't forget the straw men either. Pleanty of caricatures to go around. Ever heard of a white hole? You know, it is like a black hole only running in reverse. How about the idea that the lower the gravity is in a given area, the faster time travels in that area. Just look five above to see my point. A light year really should be considered a distance rather than a given amount of time.

BTW your site is junk
Anonymous
Tuesday, February 27, 2007 10:40:07 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Anonymous (The first),
It is believed the Earth is 5 billion years old. So, by your logic, multiply 333,333 by 2.5. A little more than 800,000 years.
You could say the scientists believe the earth is 800,000 times older than you believe, not that time passes 800,000 times faster than you think.
Your analysis is wrong.
The reason they claim you are wrong is that they have a different set of beliefs. Whether you believe logic and reason are trumped by a book and figments of your imagination or rtonot, the 5-billion-year-old view of earth can be proven to a much more definite degree than the bible.
The bible belongs in the novel section - it would make a best-seller novel, and God could be rolling in the dough.
Fletcher
Thursday, March 01, 2007 12:50:22 AM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Fletcher, you seem to misunderstand what I was actually saying. I was reffering to Gravitational Time Dilation (GTD) (I assumed most people would know what I was refering to) which stems from the theory of relativity. What GTD basically states is that time literaly slows down in an area of high gravity and speed up in an area of lower gravity. This concept is scentifically proven to be accuate look for yourself-> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravitational_time_dilation . The time change in the experiment was small because the change in gravitation force was small. If someone were to go to an area of lower gravity, time would "feel" the same as the higher gravity area, because the idividual would be expenceing events within that faster time frame. The same would appily to light traveling in such an area of lower gravity, so relative to us it would seem to be a short time for the light's arrival. This is why a light year should be considered a distance rather than a time period, because time itself varies. The universe's expansion (creats red shift) is believed, by some, to be the result of a white hole in the center pushing apart the galxies. This, in effect, creates an area around the galxies of lower gravity where compared to our relative time, things would be faster. Of course, the whole white hole idea is still on the drawing board.

Tell me, what are logic and reason? Are these concepts that simply evolved? If so who can say that reason is truly reasonable or logic logical? Is one man's logic/reason better than another's then? We all came from the same random process, so who's to say who is "more evolved"? Evolution is based in materialistic philosophy. A philosophy works as a framework on which ideas are built in science or other areas. Then the framework is assumed to be true for every case. The facts are then made to fit the framework weather creationist or evolutionist. Look at both sides honestly before dismissing one!

Why did you say the first? Your responce clearly applies to me.
Anonymous
Friday, March 16, 2007 1:26:08 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I would agree on many fronts that the logic (?) used to construct this site is questionable at best. I won't even go into grammar, let alone spelling. Circular logic (a=b because b=c and we all know that c=a, ergo…) is empty and while it does not disprove itself, it does nothing to further the argument since it proves nothing in and of itself. (ref. above. It would take over 900 years to walk through something created in 5 billion? Why would it take any longer to walk through it?)

But this is not the point I chimed in to make. My point is that especially as fundamentalists, we seem to be missing the aim of the message of Jesus (oh, yeah! That guy!) What happened to turn the other cheek, judge not, lest ye be judged, love thine enemy as yourself and (wait for it) THOU SHALL NOT KILL? (I realize that some translations use the term murder instead of kill in order to justify homicide, but the subject of biblical [mis-] translation is out of the scope of this little blurb). I feel truly sorry for the creators of this web site, as it is filled with ignorance disguised as morality, hate disguised at altruism, and fear as a weapon for control. Where is this proof written in the journals of science that proves the existence of a supreme being? Can you reference a journal? Do you know what a journal is? How come science is correct about stress tolerance, rocket science, medicine (often), but not the subject of geology, and other earth sciences? Just lucky guesses, I’m assuming. So where were these lucky guesses in the time of Pliny the Younger (look it up, kiddies)?

I’ve read the arguments against “evolution” with an open mind, and they’ve never held any water. The best they can be described is fanciful, at worst outright lies.

They bible doesn’t say how old the earth is. If you can find the passage, please quote it. I understand that the biblical math was done by a monk in the 13th century. The bible makes no references to dinosaurs flying above Noah, eating the young of his family, or terrorizing his village (let’s not forget T. Rex). If the flood carved out the canyon in 40 days and nights, why is there even a canyon there at all? Wouldn’t the earth be just a flat rock if the flood was as cataclysmic as assumed to be? Have you ever even seen the Grand Canyon?

Who is our president to legislate his religious view point? Isn’t that about as un-American as things get? Martial law? Are you serious?

Please realize that the book you are reading (in whatever translation) is not only a translation, but the original sources only go back so far. Matthew and Mark refer to a book the original Christian church used (filled with the words of Jesus [oh, yeah, that guy] has been lost to history. There is evidence King David had a gay affair (check your translation, guys).

The moral of this story: think before you speak (post).

p.s. I am not gay, have an I.Q. of +140, hold a Master’s degree, and am married.


Anon
Friday, March 16, 2007 1:52:03 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Oh yea??

"p.s. I am not gay, have an I.Q. of +140, hold a Master’s degree, and am married. "

Wow you sure seem defensive of this stuff...

If you REALLY had an IQ over 140 you would know that, if b=c and c=a then b=a. This isn't circular logic, it's just "logic"!!

Apply that same logic to Jesus Christ, and it is 100% clear that Jesus is real, and God will punish you for being a homo.
Friday, March 16, 2007 2:37:35 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Where was "a" ever defined? If it is falsely defined, then "a" cannot = "b"
Anon.
Friday, March 16, 2007 2:41:12 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
Maybe God will punish you for misrepresenting him. As for me being defensive, that is the typical tactic taken when a person without an argument chooses a side. There is a big difference between "defining" and "defensive".
Anon.
Friday, March 16, 2007 2:47:49 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
"Where was "a" ever defined? If it is falsely defined, then "a" cannot = "b""

What are you smoking?

Your "Masters degree," if you even have a degree, must be in some liberal arts crap like Marketing or radio TV arts. Did you ever take a math class in college? Are you seriously going to suggest that if b=c and c=a, that you are unsure if b=a, or you want these abstract variables to be "defined"? HEHEHAHAHHAHAHAHAA...

powned..QED

Friday, March 16, 2007 3:01:04 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I love arguing with the ignorant. The transitive law of mathematics does say if a=b and b=c then c=a. I'm not arguing that with you. I will s-p-e-l-l it out for you in a way you might be able to understand.

I was using your distortion of facts to show that you are using circular logic in your "Noah/Flood" argument. According to your scribblings above, the Grand Canyon didn't form over an extended time period because the Earth is only 6,000 years old. a=b therefore b=a. We have overwhelming evidence showing the earth to have a much older age. What do you have? Faith.

I believe in God, just not the misrepresentations you and your ilk spew.

BTW, if you are trying to hack the server this is coming from, that is a federal offense and you could see a whole lotta jail time if you're not careful. We have IT guys who are pretty good at tracking who does what on our servers. If you think that is an empty threat, keep trying. We aren't some punks with a domain we bought for $50 buck a month.
Anon.
Friday, March 16, 2007 3:31:17 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
"The transitive law of mathematics does say if a=b and b=c then c=a. I'm not arguing that with you. "

Ok glad you realize that I am right and you are wrong.

I notice you didn't say anything about your "Masters degree", so I'm going to assume I was right about that too, and it is something like "Masters of Journalism"
or "Masters in Philosophy."

By the way, saying a=b so b=a is obviously not circular logic either... but then again I am just "ignorant".. hahahaha.

Let me give you an example of circular logic:
I am smarter than you.
Why?
Because I am right and you are wrong.
Why am I right and you are wrong?
Because I am smarter than you.

Did your "IT" guys pay for 50 bucks a month for their domain? Damn that's dumb! They could have just gone to Godaddy and paid like 8 bucks for a full year.

Are you one of the people who went to Ted Haggard's church?
Wednesday, April 25, 2007 1:26:40 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
I'll do you all one better than proving the Earth to be 6000 years old or billions of years old. I'll disprove Earth in 2 words.


What Earth?
Teh Ultimatum
Friday, August 10, 2007 8:05:17 PM (Central Standard Time, UTC-06:00)
WOW! I have never met such a bunch of close minded morons you are sooo unintelligent its not even funny
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